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S2E5: What is the point of church?

Monday, October 5, 2020
Welcome to S2E5 of Martha's Talk! 
In today's episode, we are going to speak about church While some know me as Tasha, God changed my name to Martha. He also called me to be an Apostle. This simply means, that he commissioned me to go wherever he sends me to preach or teach the gospel, in truth and in love. Martha's Talk is a talk show in which I share the love of Christ for humanity, in Spirit and in Truth.

In today's episode we are going to go over:
  • What is church?
  • Why do we have church service?
  • How being in God's calling, help the church do what it has been called to do.
  • What is the point of church? 
  • Why do we tithes?
  • Why do we have church leaders?
  • When do we discipline as a church?
  • What are church leaders called by God to do when members call themselves Christians and live openly in sin?
  • What is important to God regarding the church?
  • What is not important to God regarding the church?
  • How do you find a church?
  • Who is the anti-Christ?
  • My testimony: A New Journey With Christ Church
Focus scriptures:
  • Matthew 16:18 And I tell you, you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
    • 17-20 Jesus replied, “Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah, for this was not revealed to you by flesh and blood, but by my Father in heaven. And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it. I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.” Then he ordered his disciples not to tell anyone that he was the Messiah.
  • 1 Corinthians 12:12-35 Just as a body, though one, has many parts, but all its many parts form one body, so it is with Christ. For we were all baptized by one Spirit so as to form one body—whether Jews or Gentiles, slave or free—and we were all given the one Spirit to drink.  Even so the body is not made up of one part but of many.  Now if the foot should say, “Because I am not a hand, I do not belong to the body,” it would not for that reason stop being part of the body.  And if the ear should say, “Because I am not an eye, I do not belong to the body,” it would not for that reason stop being part of the body. If the whole body were an eye, where would the sense of hearing be? If the whole body were an ear, where would the sense of smell be? But in fact God has placed the parts in the body, every one of them, just as he wanted them to be. If they were all one part, where would the body be? As it is, there are many parts, but one body.  The eye cannot say to the hand, “I don’t need you!” And the head cannot say to the feet, “I don’t need you!” On the contrary, those parts of the body that seem to be weaker are indispensable,  and the parts that we think are less honorable we treat with special honor. And the parts that are unpresentable are treated with special modesty, while our presentable parts need no special treatment. But God has put the body together, giving greater honor to the parts that lacked it, so that there should be no division in the body, but that its parts should have equal concern for each other.  If one part suffers, every part suffers with it; if one part is honored, every part rejoices with it. Now you are the body of Christ, and each one of you is a part of it. And God has placed in the church first of all apostles, second prophets, third teachers, then miracles, then gifts of healing, of helping, of guidance, and of different kinds of tongues. Are all apostles? Are all prophets? Are all teachers? Do all work miracles? Do all have gifts of healing? Do all speak in tongues? Do all interpret? Now eagerly desire the greater gifts. Love Is Indispensable And yet I will show you the most excellent way.
Q&A: What is church?
  • People of God, not a building.
    • 1 Corinthians 3:16  Don’t you know that you yourselves are God’s temple and that God’s Spirit dwells in your midst?
    • Romans 16:4-5 Greet also the church that meets at their house.
      • Notice: The Apostle Paul separates "church," with "their house," which is considered a building.
Q&A: What is church service?
In short, church service, is people of God, serving one another for the purpose of unity, spiritual maturity, hope in God that we can continue to overcome evil with good, while walking in love and in truth (Acts 2:40-48). We will discuss the purpose of church service later on in today's episode. Right now, let's focus on servant-hood (ministering to one another, in Christ). 
  • 1 Corinthians 11:33 So then, my brothers and sisters, when you gather to eat, you should all eat together.
  • Hebrews 10:19-27 Therefore, brothers and sisters, since we have confidence to enter the Most Holy Place by the blood of Jesus, by a new and living way opened for us through the curtain, that is, his body, and since we have a great priest over the house of God, let us draw near to God with a sincere heart and with the full assurance that faith brings, having our hearts sprinkled to cleanse us from a guilty conscience and having our bodies washed with pure water. Let us hold unswervingly to the hope we profess, for he who promised is faithful. And let us consider how we may spur one another on toward love and good deeds, not giving up meeting together, as some are in the habit of doing, but encouraging one anotherand all the more as you see the Day approaching. If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left, but only a fearful expectation of judgment and of raging fire that will consume the enemies of God.
    • To understand this better, we would have to read Hebrews 9, 10, and 11, and even better, all of Hebrews...or the whole NT. Let's continue reading Hebrews 10
    • Hebrews 10:26-Hebrews 10:39: If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left, but only a fearful expectation of judgment and of raging fire that will consume the enemies of God. Anyone who rejected the law of Moses died without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses. How much more severely do you think someone deserves to be punished who has trampled the Son of God underfoot, who has treated as an unholy thing the blood of the covenant that sanctified them, and who has insulted the Spirit of grace? For we know him who said, “It is mine to avenge; I will repay,” and again, “The Lord will judge his people.” It is a dreadful thing to fall into the hands of the living God. Remember those earlier days after you had received the light, when you endured in a great conflict full of suffering. Sometimes you were publicly exposed to insult and persecution; at other times you stood side by side with those who were so treated. You suffered along with those in prison and joyfully accepted the confiscation of your property, because you knew that you yourselves had better and lasting possessions. So do not throw away your confidence; it will be richly rewarded. You need to persevere so that when you have done the will of God, you will receive what he has promised. For, “In just a little while, he who is coming will come and will not delay.” And, “But my righteous one will live by faith. And I take no pleasure in the one who shrinks back.” But we do not belong to those who shrink back and are destroyed, but to those who have faith and are saved.
    • Hebrews 11:1: Now faith is confidence in what we hope for and assurance about what we do not see.
Q&A: How does doing what we are called to do, help the church continue to do, what God has called it (us) to do?
Let's briefly chat about the five-fold so that we can speak about the common suggestions of leaders based upon God's calling for their life. 
  • According to 1 Corinthians 12:20-31, there is an order among the five-fold leaders. God is the one who determined this order, and this order is based upon spiritual authority. 
  • According to Ephesians 4:1-11, the five-fold has grace for their office, not another's office. Take for example, pastors and apostles. If we have pastors, doing what apostles do, but they are not called by God to be an apostle, that mean they do not have the grace attached to that office nor the spiritual authority. What happens in situations, as such, is that it allows the enemy to come in, and give misunderstanding of the church, the bible, Christianity, etc (see Matthew 13:1-23). 
  • For example: As a reminder, a church is not a church building. I've apostled (governed), churches in which I never physically attended. Why? I was sent to these churches by God the Father, and while I believe they knew that I was sent to apostle their church in that season (they found ANJWC church YouTube channel and kept watching, despite ...), after the season was up, they had the opportunity to accept what God said through me, or reject it. This may sound strange if you consider the church to be a church building.  I go where I am sent by God, and say what I am told. It is not my calling to force people to believe the truth. However, I still pray, that they would. I have concerns that I speak to God the Father about, and these concerns come from a place of love, because I know some of these churches that I have been sent to, cannot see what I can see. I love them, and Jesus Christ loves them. 
    • Now on the spiritual side of things, because God the Father sent me to these churches who were sleeping, spiritually, and I did what I was told to do, I was attacked by rulers of darkness, for teaching the truth in love. Remember God gives each office a certain amount of grace to overcome, and to be able the stand in their office. By reading the epistles, we see the grace given to the Apostle Paul, as an apostle (1 Corinthians 15:8-10). Now, God's grace doesn't necessarily eliminate  or stop trials & tribulations. However, it allows us to go through them and to overcome. If a prophet, evangelist, teacher, or pastor, did what I did, just because I did it, and they were not called by God, they wouldn't have had the same grace to overcome what I overcame. Again, this is why it's important for five-fold leaders to know God, know what Jesus Christ called them to do, and understand the spiritual gifts given to them by the Holy Spirit, is for their office, but for the purpose of serving the church. Thus, there is an order and when God calls us to something, he will give us the grace to overcome.
When reading the epistles, it is important to mention that Silas, the prophet and Timothy, the evangelist, Titus, the teacher, and pastors (Acts 5:2) were all governed by the Apostle Paul, or other Apostles. I mention this because as we read the new testament, we see the five-fold leadership working together, in their calling, submitting to God-given leadership authority.  I believe when we submit to God's order, and authority, that the Holy Spirit will be able to resist the devil for us within our churches, and the devil will flee (James 4:7). In short, the leadership offices are commissioned by God to do the following:
  • Apostles - govern, and do all the other offices as led by the Lord.
  • Prophets - utter the words of God, regarding what is to come, as led by the Lord.
  • Teachers - impart knowledge, understanding and wisdom, about the bible. Note: This is more than Sunday school teaching (James 3:1).
  • Evangelist - preach the gospel of the Kingdom of God to sinners, and heal and deliver sinners as led by the Lord.
  • Pastors - over the administration of the service, and counseling of saints, as they journey with Christ.
Grace for our own calling, not others! 
  • Note: In biblical times, teachers were on the "pulpit", and pastors were "behind the scenes," counseling. I am not saying that pastors cannot be on the pulpit counseling. However, I do encourage each church to have someone called by God to stand in the office of a teacher, teaching in their main service. The office of a teacher and pastor are totally different. When the Apostle Paul speaks about pastors being able to teach in 1 Timothy 3:2, it can be translated to mean teachable or qualified to teach. I believe it means teachable. 
  • Note: 2 Timothy 4:2, in KJV says preach (khrussw) not teach. Thus, the Apostle Paul told Timothy the Evangelist to preach not teach.  In Ephesians 4:11, the word for the office of a teacher in Hebrew is didaskaloj and it means instructor, a master, a doctor. This does not mean one has to have a doctorate or a master's in order to stand in the office of a teacher, rather it means they must be called by God and it is not the same as a Sunday school teacher (necessarily), nor should other offices teach, unless they are called by God to so, or are directed by an apostle of God to do so, via the leading of the Holy Spirit. In 1 Timothy 3:2 the word teach in Hebrew is didaktoj and it can mean to be able to teach (but not as a teacher, see didaskaloj), rather as one who can be taught. The latter is more likely. 
    • Demons are sent to encourage teachers to fall away from the faith and to teach bad doctrine. Teachers, like the other offices, has grace for the their calling, not other's calling, to overcome the schemes of the devil. This is the reason why it's important to do what God has called us to do, and not what others are doing. 
    • Jesus gave each office gifts for their offices and grace for their office. In other words, the five-fold leadership offices may look at church service differently. Although our Apostle Jesus Christ, and Apostle Paul, tell us to have unity in mind and spirit. The reason that I am mentioning this is because it's the enemies attempt to get the leaders divided, so that those who they serve will be divided (1 Corinthians 1:12; 3:4).
Before I continue I would like to say the following, if you are a five-fold leader and you have a church building, I am not shaming you. My hopes is to shed light on how a change of mind, could change millions of hearts, through natural simplicity and Spiritual richness (Acts 20:35, Galatians 2:10,2 Corinthians 8:9, James 1:27, 1 John 3:17). This change of mind, could cost you everything naturally, but if it is the way that Jesus desired the church to operate, wouldn't it be worth the cost? My statement doesn't eliminate the contribution of saints all over the world, especially of those with large church buildings. It rather, exposes, the Sardis and Laodicea churches (not church buildings).
  • Evangelistic Question: Does nice looking church buildings, give us a sense of carnal security? Has the American dream, robbed the church of true love, unity, Spiritual maturity, faith, and hope?
  • Evangelistic Concern: Think about how much money churches could save, if, instead of having an expensive church building with expensive church bills, if they (the church) met in each other homes, and live-streamed their main service, weekly, or if they rented out a parking lot, or park, and had Sunday service there. The millions of dollars spent on church buildings and for church buildings, could be used to end world hunger, overturn adoption agencies, and advance the gospel through missions, both locally and globally. Is the reason why we want a church building, a nice looking one at that, for leadership idolization? Meaning, do we want to be the CEO of a company, in which people report to us? Does churches that run like corporate America, take the focus off of Jesus Christ, and put the focus on us, what we think, what we say, and who we are? Instead of who he is, what he gave, and how we can serve one another in truth and in love
  • Pastoral Question: If we eliminate church buildings, and move it to homes, or had church at the park, where would we counsel those with martial issues? Those who are overcoming drug addictions? Those who just escaped violent situations (e.g. rape, physical abuse)?
  • Pastoral Concern: At what cost do we eliminate church buildings that are used to help saints grow in Christ, for outreach? When we reach out to sinners, and they become saints, then what? Where do they go to grow and develop?
  • Apostolic Questions: Are we, the church (not church-building) doing what we think would make disciples of Jesus Christ, or are we following the word of God, and Jesus's earthly ministry, in Spirit and in truth, despite common church culture? If you are a five-fold leader (i.e. apostle, prophet, evangelist, teacher, and pastor), who taught you, that you needed a church building to have a church? On the contrary, who taught you that  church buildings are not the way that God wants his church to operate? Was it church culture, or did the Holy Spirit literally tell you to get a church building, or not to be in a building? Note: I am for the church (people), but in established nations, I wonder if the need to have a church building, has led to misunderstanding of what the church is, what the point of church is, and who the church is. What happens after an evangelist heals & delivers a sinner, and they are now righteous (a saint)? Where do they go to learn about the word of God? Yes, they absolutely have the Holy Spirit. However, the Holy Spirit used the five-fold leadership for the church. Jesus Christ himself had a team (12 to be exact), and the Holy Spirit to assist him.
The point of listing these concerns and questions, is so that the five-fold leaders will not look down on one another by thinking that since they have a concern, that their concern is more important than the next. Again, as an apostle of God, I cry and talk to God about this often. 

Q&A: Why do we tithe (Eser), under the Law of the Spirit (covenant of grace)?
The word tithe, which means 10%, is not actually mentioned from Acts to Jude (the epistles), for the context of the church. Although, Abraham gave Melchizedek a tithe in Genesis 14:18-20, we know by reading Deuteronomy 14:22-29 that it was also considered a requirement under the Law of Moses. So why do we tithe under the Law of the Spirit (covenant of grace) and how much?

From the scriptures listed below, we don't tithe. However, we give to support those who work at church, to help the poor, and to advance the gospel. Under the Law of the Spirit (covenant of grace), the word of God does not tell us to give 10%. The amount 10% is shown and commanded under period 2, and 3, as I discuss in the video Martha's Talk Moment - The Four Periods of the Bible. I am not saying that giving 10% to the church is wrong, neither am I saying giving 100% is wrong (Acts 4:32-37). Likewise, I am not saying giving 1% or 5% is wrong. We should give as directed by the Lord, and cheerfully (2 Corinthians 9:6-7) with an ardent desire to see your church house support those who work at the church, help the poor, and to advance the gospel. Those who work at the church are to be supported with the intent that they earn average wages of where they are located, allowing the rest, to be given to the poor and ministry outreach in order to advance the gospel. How do I know this? Check out S2E1 How are we to live as Christians?

Q&A: So what does the bible say about giving, tithes, wages, and the like?
  • 1 Corinthians 9:13-15 - Don’t you know that those who serve in the temple get their food from the temple, and that those who serve at the altar share in what is offered on the altar? In the same way, the Lord has commanded that those who preach the gospel should receive their living from the gospel. But I have not used any of these rights. And I am not writing this in the hope that you will do such things for me, for I would rather die than allow anyone to deprive me of this boast. Recommended watch: S2E1 How are we to live as Christians?
  • 1 Corinthians 16:1-8 - Now about the collection for the Lord’s people: Do what I told the Galatian churches to do. On the first day of every week, each one of you should set aside a sum of money in keeping with your income, saving it up, so that when I come no collections will have to be made. Then, when I arrive, I will give letters of introduction to the men you approve and send them with your gift to Jerusalem. If it seems advisable for me to go also, they will accompany me.
  • 2 Corinthians 8:1-24 And now, brothers and sisters, we want you to know about the grace that God has given the Macedonian churches. In the midst of a very severe trial, their overflowing joy and their extreme poverty welled up in rich generosity. For I testify that they gave as much as they were able, and even beyond their ability. Entirely on their own, they urgently pleaded with us for the privilege of sharing in this service to the Lord’s people. And they exceeded our expectations: They gave themselves first of all to the Lord, and then by the will of God also to us. So we urged Titus, just as he had earlier made a beginning, to bring also to completion this act of grace on your part.  But since you excel in everything—in faith, in speech, in knowledge, in complete earnestness and in the love we have kindled in you—see that you also excel in this grace of giving. I am not commanding you, but I want to test the sincerity of your love by comparing it with the earnestness of others. For you know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that though he was rich, yet for your sake he became poor, so that you through his poverty might become rich. And here is my judgment about what is best for you in this matter. Last year you were the first not only to give but also to have the desire to do so. Now finish the work, so that your eager willingness to do it may be matched by your completion of it, according to your means. For if the willingness is there, the gift is acceptable according to what one has, not according to what one does not have. Our desire is not that others might be relieved while you are hard pressed, but that there might be equality. At the present time your plenty will supply what they need, so that in turn their plenty will supply what you need. The goal is equality, as it is written: “The one who gathered much did not have too much, and the one who gathered little did not have too little.” Thanks be to God, who put into the heart of Titus the same concern I have for you. For Titus not only welcomed our appeal, but he is coming to you with much enthusiasm and on his own initiative. And we are sending along with him the brother who is praised by all the churches for his service to the gospel. What is more, he was chosen by the churches to accompany us as we carry the offering, which we administer in order to honor the Lord himself and to show our eagerness to help. We want to avoid any criticism of the way we administer this liberal gift. For we are taking pains to do what is right, not only in the eyes of the Lord but also in the eyes of man. In addition, we are sending with them our brother who has often proved to us in many ways that he is zealous, and now even more so because of his great confidence in you. As for Titus, he is my partner and co-worker among you; as for our brothers, they are representatives of the churches and an honor to Christ. Therefore show these men the proof of your love and the reason for our pride in you, so that the churches can see it.
  • 1 Timothy 6:1-11 - These are the things you are to teach and insist on. If anyone teaches otherwise and does not agree to the sound instruction of our Lord Jesus Christ and to godly teaching, they are conceited and understand nothing. They have an unhealthy interest in controversies and quarrels about words that result in envy, strife, malicious talk, evil suspicions and constant friction between people of corrupt mind, who have been robbed of the truth and who think that godliness is a means to financial gain. But godliness with contentment is great gain. For we brought nothing into the world, and we can take nothing out of it. But if we have food and clothing, we will be content with that. Those who want to get rich fall into temptation and a trap and into many foolish and harmful desires that plunge people into ruin and destruction. For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil. Some people, eager for money, have wandered from the faith and pierced themselves with many griefs.
  • Romans 15:26; Acts 11:29-30 For Macedonia and Achaia were pleased to make a contribution for the poor among the Lord’s people in Jerusalem.
Q&A: What is the point of church? 
Q&A: Why do we have church leaders (apostles, prophets, teachers, evangelist, and pastors)?
The Great CommissionMatthew 28:16-20 Then the eleven disciples went to Galilee, to the mountain where Jesus had told them to go. When they saw him, they worshiped him; but some doubted. Then Jesus came to them and said, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.
  • When reading the great commission, we should understand that before the twelve went to make disciples, they were disciples 0f Jesus Christ for 3 years.
The great commission in Matthew 28:16-20 is captured in Ephesians 4:1-32. We have church leaders, specifically the five-fold to do the following:

#1. To equip saints to love God, to love their brothers and sisters and Christ:
 
Ephesians 4:1-32 As a prisoner for the Lord, then, I urge you to live a life worthy of the calling you have received. Be completely humble and gentle; be patient, bearing with one another in love. Make every effort to keep the unity of the Spirit through the bond of peace. There is one body and one Spirit, just as you were called to one hope when you were called; one Lord, one faith, one baptism; one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all. But to each one of us grace has been given as Christ apportioned it. This is why it says: “When he ascended on high, he took many captives and gave gifts to his people.” (What does “he ascended” mean except that he also descended to the lower, earthly regions? He who descended is the very one who ascended higher than all the heavens, in order to fill the whole universe.) So Christ himself gave the apostles, the prophets, the evangelists, the pastors and teachers, to equip his people for works of service, so that the body of Christ may be built up until we all reach unity in the faith and in the knowledge of the Son of God and become mature, attaining to the whole measure of the fullness of Christ. Then we will no longer be infants, tossed back and forth by the waves, and blown here and there by every wind of teaching and by the cunning and craftiness of people in their deceitful scheming. Instead, speaking the truth in love, we will grow to become in every respect the mature body of him who is the head, that is, Christ. From him the whole body, joined and held together by every supporting ligament, grows and builds itself up in love, as each part does its work.

#2. To build up - to reach unity: Ephesians 4:1-32 As a prisoner for the Lord, then, I urge you to live a life worthy of the calling you have received. Be completely humble and gentle; be patient, bearing with one another in love. Make every effort to keep the unity of the Spirit through the bond of peace. There is one body and one Spirit, just as you were called to one hope when you were called; one Lord, one faith, one baptism; one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all. But to each one of us grace has been given as Christ apportioned it. This is why it says: “When he ascended on high, he took many captives and gave gifts to his people.” (What does “he ascended” mean except that he also descended to the lower, earthly regions? He who descended is the very one who ascended higher than all the heavens, in order to fill the whole universe.) So Christ himself gave the apostles, the prophets, the evangelists, the pastors and teachers, to equip his people for works of service, so that the body of Christ may be built up until we all reach unity in the faith and in the knowledge of the Son of God and become mature, attaining to the whole measure of the fullness of Christ. Then we will no longer be infants, tossed back and forth by the waves, and blown here and there by every wind of teaching and by the cunning and craftiness of people in their deceitful scheming. Instead, speaking the truth in love, we will grow to become in every respect the mature body of him who is the head, that is, Christ. From him the whole body, joined and held together by every supporting ligament, grows and builds itself up in love, as each part does its work.

#3. To build up - to reach spiritual maturity: Ephesians 4:1-32 As a prisoner for the Lord, then, I urge you to live a life worthy of the calling you have received. Be completely humble and gentle; be patient, bearing with one another in love. Make every effort to keep the unity of the Spirit through the bond of peace. There is one body and one Spirit, just as you were called to one hope when you were called; one Lord, one faith, one baptism; one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all. But to each one of us grace has been given as Christ apportioned it. This is why it says: “When he ascended on high, he took many captives and gave gifts to his people.” (What does “he ascended” mean except that he also descended to the lower, earthly regions? He who descended is the very one who ascended higher than all the heavens, in order to fill the whole universe.) So Christ himself gave the apostles, the prophets, the evangelists, the pastors and teachers, to equip his people for works of service, so that the body of Christ may be built up until we all reach unity in the faith and in the knowledge of the Son of God and become mature, attaining to the whole measure of the fullness of Christ. Then we will no longer be infants, tossed back and forth by the waves, and blown here and there by every wind of teaching and by the cunning and craftiness of people in their deceitful scheming. Instead, speaking the truth in love, we will grow to become in every respect the mature body of him who is the head, that is, Christ. From him the whole body, joined and held together by every supporting ligament, grows and builds itself up in love, as each part does its work.

#4. To admonish, by reading what the Apostle Paul wrote to the Teacher Titus, in Titus 2:15, teachers who are governed by an apostle are to teach in addition, to encourage and rebuke (elegecw) with the intent to build up the body of Christ, and uphold the truth of the gospel of Christ. It reads, "These, then, are the things you should teach. Encourage and rebuke with all authority. Do not let anyone despise you." Likewise, by reading 2 Corinthians 10:1-11, Apostles have a higher level of authority given to them by Jesus Christ to discipline the church they are governing, as led by the Lord, Jesus Christ with the intent to build it up, and uphold to the truth of the gospel of Christ, Jesus.

This brings us to the following two questions:
#1.When do we discipline as a church? 
What are church leaders called by God to do when members call themselves Christians and live openly in sin? 1 Corinthians 5Titus 1:10-16, Titus 3:1-11
  • 1 Corinthians 5 I wrote to you in my letter not to associate with sexually immoral people— not at all meaning the people of this world who are immoral, or the greedy and swindlers, or idolaters. In that case you would have to leave this world. But now I am writing to you that you must not associate with anyone who claims to be a brother or sister but is sexually immoral or greedy, an idolater or slanderer, a drunkard or swindler. Do not even eat with such people. What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside? God will judge those outside. “Expel the wicked person from among you.”
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Five fold leaders are to have integrity when handling the the word of God; do what's right according to the word of God and with the help of the Holy Spirit, even if it is not necessarily what is easy or comfortable. 

In 1 Corinthians 5:9-13 Paul tells the church do not associate (connect or eat with) a brother or sister in Christ, claiming to be a follower of Christ and who is:
  1. Sexual Immoral - having sex outside of marriage, watching porno, homosexual, adultery
  2. Greedy - having or showing an intense and selfish desire for something, especially wealth or power 
  3. Swindler - a person who uses deception to deprive someone of money or possessions 
  4. Idolater - if you worship (praise) anything (e.g car, job, family) over Jesus
  5. Slanderer - the utterance of false charges or misrepresentations which defame and damage another's reputation. 
  6. Drunkard - a person who is habitually drinks
What is the point of this?
That you would love this wandering sheep who is in sin, so much, that you will not allow him or her to live in sin and hide in church. That you would take into consideration that perhaps if we had a church built on integrity according to the word of God, and we loved one of another in righteousness, that the world would see our good deeds and glorify our father in heaven.

How are we supposed to approach the brother sister in Christ that is in sin?
In Matthew 18, right after Jesus tells his disciples the parable of the wandering sheep, he speaks to them about dealing with sin in the church. This is not a separate conversation.
1. Privately point out your brother and or sister sin
2. If they do not listen, take one or two along with you [ask a leader of church to join you]
3. If they refuse to listen tell it to the church (the whole body) in love; not to condemn the one in sin; rather to love on the person
4. If they refuse to listen to the church, ask them to leave the church

What are we saving the wandering sheep from?
We are supposed to love the wandering sheep so much that we snatch them out of the fire. In Matthew 18, right before Jesus tells his disciples the parable of the wandering sheep and how to deal with sin in the church, he speaks to them about the Kingdom of Heaven and the things that cause people to stumble and hell for eternity.. This is not a separate conversation. This is not an easy conversation to have, especially because we do not see this being done in a lot of churches. So we've become accustomed to allowing people to say they are born again Christians and tell them that it also okay live in sin for the sake of numbers. Who wants a dead church? Caring about numbers as opposed to the souls of your church members is contradictory to the word of God.

What happens if the wandering sheep does not repent?
If the self-proclaimed Christian refuses to repent of their sin, the Apostle Paul tells them to  expel them  (wickedness) from the church, because we want them to go into the world, see how horrible it is and have Godly sorrow so that they can repent of their sins. The church in Sardis in Revelation 2:18-23, is an example of what happens when we do not adhere to the Apostle Paul.

What happens if they repent?
We are supposed to have mercy and accept them with open arms and not remembering their repented sins nor count those sins against them. In Matthew 18, right after Jesus tells his disciples the parable of the wandering sheep and how to deal with sin in the church,and after he speaks about the Kingdom of Heaven and the things that cause people to stumble and hell for eternity, he speaks about showing mercy. This is also not a separate conversation!

Q&A: Who is anti-Christ?
  • 1 John 2:18 Dear children, this is the last hour; and as you have heard that the antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have come. This is how we know it is the last hour.
  • Snippet from the NKJV Full Color Print Study BibleLast hour: John views the rise of those who deny the truth of Christ from within the Christianity community as an indication of the beginning of the end of all things. Antichrists is a combination of two Greek words: anti, meaning "instead of" or "against," and christos, meaning "anointed one." Antichrist most likely means those who seek to take the place of Christ. The many antichrists are the false teachers that John opposes in this letter (see v.22;4:3;2 John 7). They are a reminiscent of the false christs Jesus told the disciples about (see Matthew 24:24). They are the forerunners of the future Antichrist, also known as the beast in the book of Revelation (see Rev 13:1-18), who will exalt himself above God (see. 9:27; 11:31;12:11; Matt. 24:15)
Q&A: How to find a church?
  • Ask the Holy Spirit (Be led by the Holy Spirit!)
  • The Holy Spirit does not always lead us to pasture lands. He also leads us to wilderness to mature us, and so we can serve others (Matthew 4).
Q&A: What is important to God, regarding the church?
#1. Love
#2. Truth
#3. Maturity
#4. Unity
  • Ephesians 4:1-16 As a prisoner for the Lord, then, I urge you to live a life worthy of the calling you have received. Be completely humble and gentle; be patient, bearing with one another in love. Make every effort to keep the unity of the Spirit through the bond of peace. There is one body and one Spirit, just as you were called to one hope when you were called; one Lord, one faith, one baptism; one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all. But to each one of us grace has been given as Christ apportioned it. This is why it says: “When he ascended on high, he took many captives and gave gifts to his people.” (What does “he ascended” mean except that he also descended to the lower, earthly regions? He who descended is the very one who ascended higher than all the heavens, in order to fill the whole universe.) So Christ himself gave the apostles, the prophets, the evangelists, the pastors and teachers, to equip his people for works of service, so that the body of Christ may be built up until we all reach unity in the faith and in the knowledge of the Son of God and become mature, attaining to the whole measure of the fullness of Christ. Then we will no longer be infants, tossed back and forth by the waves, and blown here and there by every wind of teaching and by the cunning and craftiness of people in their deceitful scheming. Instead, speaking the truth in love, we will grow to become in every respect the mature body of him who is the head, that is, Christ. From him the whole body, joined and held together by every supporting ligament, grows and builds itself up in love, as each part does its work. 
  • Ephesians 17-32: So I tell you this, and insist on it in the Lord, that you must no longer live as the Gentiles do, in the futility of their thinking. They are darkened in their understanding and separated from the life of God because of the ignorance that is in them due to the hardening of their hearts. Having lost all sensitivity, they have given themselves over to sensuality so as to indulge in every kind of impurity, and they are full of greed. That, however, is not the way of life you learned  when you heard about Christ and were taught in him in accordance with the truth that is in Jesus. You were taught, with regard to your former way of life, to put off your old self, which is being corrupted by its deceitful desires; to be made new in the attitude of your minds; and to put on the new self, created to be like God in true righteousness and holiness.  Therefore each of you must put off falsehood and speak truthfully to your neighbor, for we are all members of one body.  “In your anger do not sin”: Do not let the sun go down while you are still angry, and do not give the devil a foothold. Anyone who has been stealing must steal no longer, but must work, doing something useful with their own hands, that they may have something to share with those in need. Do not let any unwholesome talk come out of your mouths, but only what is helpful for building others up according to their needs, that it may benefit those who listen. And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, with whom you were sealed for the day of redemption. Get rid of all bitterness, rage and anger, brawling and slander, along with every form of malice. Be kind and compassionate to one another, forgiving each other, just as in Christ God forgave you.
Q&A: What is not important to God, regarding the church?
By reading Revelation 2-3, and really all of the bible, or at least the NT, we would know that the following are not important to God, regarding the church: 
#1. Financially rich 
#2. Physically large
#3. Leadership idolization
  • To the Church in Ephesus 
    •  “To the angel of the church in Ephesus write: These are the words of him who holds the seven stars in his right hand and walks among the seven golden lampstands
      • I know your deeds, your hard work and your perseverance. 
      • I know that you cannot tolerate wicked people, 
      • that you have tested those who claim to be apostles but are not, and have found them false. 
      • You have persevered and have endured hardships for my name, and have not grown weary. 
    • Yet I hold this against you: You have forsaken the love you had at first. Consider how far you have fallen! Repent and do the things you did at first. If you do not repent, I will come to you and remove your lampstand from its place. 
    • But you have this in your favor: You hate the practices of the Nicolaitans, which I also hate. Whoever has ears, let them hear what the Spirit says to the churches. 
    • To the one who is victorious, I will give the right to eat from the tree of life, which is in the paradise of God. 
  • To the Church in Smyrna 
    • To the angel of the church in Smyrna write: These are the words of him who is the First and the Last, who died and came to life again. 
      • I know your afflictions and your poverty—yet you are rich! 
      • I know about the slander of those who say they are Jews and are not, but are a synagogue of Satan.  
      • Do not be afraid of what you are about to suffer. I tell you, the devil will put some of you in prison to test you, and you will suffer persecution for ten days. Be faithful, even to the point of death, and I will give you life as your victor’s crown. Whoever has ears, let them hear what the Spirit says to the churches. 
    • The one who is victorious will not be hurt at all by the second death. 
  • To the Church in Pergamum 
    • To the angel of the church in Pergamum write: These are the words of him who has the sharp, double-edged sword. 
      • I know where you live—where Satan has his throne. Yet you remain true to my name. You did not renounce your faith in me, not even in the days of Antipas, my faithful witness, who was put to death in your city—where Satan lives. 
    • Nevertheless, I have a few things against you: There are some among you who hold to the teaching of Balaam, who taught Balak to entice the Israelites to sin so that they ate food sacrificed to idols and committed sexual immorality.  Likewise, you also have those who hold to the teaching of the Nicolaitans. Repent therefore! Otherwise, I will soon come to you and will fight against them with the sword of my mouth. Whoever has ears, let them hear what the Spirit says to the churches. 
    • To the one who is victorious, I will give some of the hidden manna. I will also give that person a white stone with a new name written on it, known only to the one who receives it. 
  • To the Church in Thyatira 
    • To the angel of the church in Thyatira write: These are the words of the Son of God, whose eyes are like blazing fire and whose feet are like burnished bronze.  
      • I know your deeds, your love and faith, your service and perseverance, and that you are now doing more than you did at first. 
    • Nevertheless, I have this against you: You tolerate that woman Jezebel, who calls herself a prophet. By her teaching she misleads my servants into sexual immorality and the eating of food sacrificed to idols. I have given her time to repent of her immorality, but she is unwilling. So I will cast her on a bed of suffering, and I will make those who commit adultery with her suffer intensely, unless they repent of her ways.  I will strike her children dead. Then all the churches will know that I am he who searches hearts and minds, and I will repay each of you according to your deeds.  Now I say to the rest of you in Thyatira, to you who do not hold to her teaching and have not learned Satan’s so-called deep secrets, ‘I will not impose any other burden on you,  except to hold on to what you have until I come.’  
    • To the one who is victorious and does my will to the end, I will give authority over the nations— that one ‘will rule them with an iron scepter and will dash them to pieces like pottery’—just as I have received authority from my Father. I will also give that one the morning star.  Whoever has ears, let them hear what the Spirit says to the churches. 
  • To the Church in Sardis 
    • To the angel of the church in Sardis write: These are the words of him who holds the seven spirits of God and the seven stars. 
      • I know your deeds; you have a reputation of being alive, but you are dead.  Wake up! Strengthen what remains and is about to die, for I have found your deeds unfinished in the sight of my God. Remember, therefore, what you have received and heard; hold it fast, and repent. But if you do not wake up, I will come like a thief, and you will not know at what time I will come to you. 
      • Yet you have a few people in Sardis who have not soiled their clothes. They will walk with me, dressed in white, for they are worthy. 
    • The one who is victorious will, like them, be dressed in white. I will never blot out the name of that person from the book of life, but will acknowledge that name before my Father and his angels.Whoever has ears, let them hear what the Spirit says to the churches. 
  • To the Church in Philadelphia 
    • To the angel of the church in Philadelphia write: These are the words of him who is holy and true, who holds the key of David. What he opens no one can shut, and what he shuts no one can open. 
      • I know your deeds. See, I have placed before you an open door that no one can shut. I know that you have little strength, yet you have kept my word and have not denied my name. 
      • I will make those who are of the synagogue of Satan, who claim to be Jews though they are not, but are liars—I will make them come and fall down at your feet and acknowledge that I have loved you. Since you have kept my command to endure patiently, I will also keep you from the hour of trial that is going to come on the whole world to test the inhabitants of the earth. I am coming soon. Hold on to what you have, so that no one will take your crown. 
    • The one who is victorious I will make a pillar in the temple of my God. Never again will they leave it. I will write on them the name of my God and the name of the city of my God, the new Jerusalem, which is coming down out of heaven from my God; and I will also write on them my new name. Whoever has ears, let them hear what the Spirit says to the churches. 
  • To the Church in Laodicea 
    • To the angel of the church in Laodicea write: These are the words of the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the ruler of God’s creation. 
      • I know your deeds, that you are neither cold nor hot. I wish you were either one or the other! So, because you are lukewarm—neither hot nor cold—I am about to spit you out of my mouth. You say, ‘I am rich; I have acquired wealth and do not need a thing.’ But you do not realize that you are wretched, pitiful, poor, blind and naked. I counsel you to buy from me gold refined in the fire, so you can become rich; and white clothes to wear, so you can cover your shameful nakedness; and salve to put on your eyes, so you can see. Those whom I love I rebuke and discipline. So be earnest and repent. Here I am! I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears my voice and opens the door, I will come in and eat with that person, and they with me. 
    • To the one who is victorious, I will give the right to sit with me on my throne, just as I was victorious and sat down with my Father on his throne. Whoever has ears, let them hear what the Spirit says to the churches.”
My testimony: A New Journey With Christ Church
  • Small but mighty in the Lord
  • Many people will be saved because of Jesus's love in me, and my love for others?
  • Poor but making many rich
  • Oh, I did not need a church building?
  • Oh, I did not need money?
  • Oh, I did not need makeup, and wigs? 
What must I do to have a relationship with Jesus Christ?
Watch today's episode:
Note: There was such a spiritual warfare when recording this video, when editing this video, and when uploading this, that I had to upload it, unedited. Again, it is unedited, thus, it's important for you to check the teaching post for specifics. For some reason my video file would not upload. After spending hours editing this video, on two of three different occasions, the video would not upload. Then, during the fourth editing, the file was deleted, although I never deleted it. If there is anything that was said in this episode, that needs clarification, I will add the corrections below.

Timestamps:
  • 0:00 Introduction
  • 0:13:35 Focus scriptures
  • 0:25:50 What is important to God, regarding the church?
  • 0:30:50 Clarification: Our spirit has already been redeemed. We are awaiting redemption of our body, which will happen, when the rapture happens. We follow the same process as Jesus (Read Matthew 27-28, and Romans 6-8)
  • 0:34:20 What is important to God, regarding the church?
  • 0:57:00 Type & Shadows of Elijah the Prophet: #1.John the Baptist in the gospels #2. The church after Jesus's resurrection
  • 0:59:00 I said Matthew 11, 12. I meant Revelation 11, 12, and 14.
  • 1:01:02 Clarification: Teaching & preaching in love AND truth. I meant to include, truth.
  • 1:02:00 Clarification: We should still confess/profess our faith in Jesus Christ. Meaning, we should continue to say that Jesus is Christ when things are difficult, and also when things are easy. When I speak about the word of faith movement (google it for specifics), I am referencing, a movement in which people use the bible out of context to unknowingly do witchcraft, but because they say in the name of Jesus after they use scripture out of context and chant, they think what they are doing is okay. According to people in this movement, using faith, and applying any scripture in the bible to get what they want, is okay. They are deceived! They actually do not believe that Jesus is Christ (this is anti-Christ), because they preach, teach, prophesy, shepherd (counsel) against Jesus's word..
  • 1:20:00 My testimony: ANJWC Church
  • 1:22:00 My NDE (Hell) December 2017
  • 2:02:00 OSAS

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